Episode 50 Pet Psychic Charles Peden on We Don’t Die Radio


Sandra: Welcome to another episode of We Don’t
Die, where my goal to give you evidence that, although our bodies will disappear, we survive
physical death. When are aren’t afraid of death, we’re less
afraid of life. From these episodes, I aim for all of us to
take more risks in our lives, go after our dreams, have great relationships and some
fun in the process. I’m your host, Sandra Champlain, author of
the international best-seller We Don’t Die: A Skeptic’s Discovery of Life After Death. Today is a very special show. For those seeking to communicate with not
only your loved ones in spirit, but with your animal companions, both living and past, you
are listening to the right episode. Our guest today is Charles Peden, who is an
internationally-recognized animal communicator and psychic-medium. He works equally well with animals and spirits
of our departed loved ones. For the past eight years, Charles has worked
alongside organizations such as SPCA, The Humane Society, and others. From his home-office in the mountains near
Sacramento, California, Charles provides his services worldwide over the telephone, using
Skype on the computer as well as in person. Should you wish to connect with your pets
better or have a need for closure, or simply just want to check in with your departed loved
ones or family members, or even close friends, Charles can assist. Charles Peden, welcome to We Don’t Die Radio. Charles: Thanks Sandra for having me on, it’s
a pleasure. Sandra: I was excited reading your bio. Excited is word I get kind of nervous, kind
of excited. It’s like opening a present and you never
know what you’ll get. We spoke a few moments before we pressed the
record button and I know you’re someone we’ll fall in love with. If you don’t mind, tell us a bit about you. I don’t think when you woke up as a child
and knew you wanted to be a psychic-medium and animal communicator. Charles: No, I was going to go into forestry
grow trees or something like that. I remember this distinctly, I sat down with
my guidance counselor; I was working with the forest services and in a youth program. I was about, oh man, 11, 12, or 13 at the
time. I thought that was what I was going to get
into. At the time, the spotted owl was an issue
in Oregon where we were living on the coast. It was timber and logging country. Being a psychic-medium, let alone talking
to the animals like Dr. Dolittle was certainly the furthest thing from my mind. Sandra: Right. Charles: I never entertained the thought and
sat down with the guidance counselor, saying yes. This is what you’ll do. Sandra: Nope. Charles: But, there were precursors to what
the future held for me. Around the age of 3 to 5, incidents occurred
where I felt a presence and saw someone who wasn’t there, ghostly figures. We had a fur-trader who would come through. Then, there was the incidences with my animals. One passed and I saw her about 6 months after
passing. I brought it up with the family and they told
me it wasn’t possible and encouraged me to not discuss things that weren’t there, if
you will. I suppressed it, like most people do with
early-childhood experiences that they cannot communicate with their elders or authority
figures about. Pretty soon, it was dismissed and I got caught
up in life. I was trying to get good grades, sports, and
all that stuff. Fast forward to January 24th of 2006, I had
a ghost appear in my house. Sandra: Hm. Charles: I didn’t believe in ghosts, so I
went through the majority of my later-childhood years and my adult years as a skeptic of anything
of the paranormal nature. Sandra: Right. Charles: So, when the ghost appeared I didn’t
think it was a ghost. I thought it was someone burglarizing my house. It was hard to figure out, since I was on
the second floor and I saw this woman standing behind me. I was on this condo on the second floor and
I’m thinking, wait a minute. How’d you get in here? You’re not my wife. There’s no open doors or windows. What happened? I do a double take and she’s still walking
towards me, but she enters through my chest in that classic horror picture move. It was kind of like someone taking a DVD of
their life experiences, and your playback device for that experience. All of a sudden, these emotions started to
well up and these sensations that I couldn’t put my finger on. I couldn’t figure out the origin of these
feelings but I could feel these feelings of sorrow, loneliness and why did it have to
happen this way? Turned out she was murdered in her first trimester. Sandra: Oh my. Charles: There was a situation where it would’ve
not been good for the father, shall we say, if he had this child out of wedlock and it
was a poor immigrant’s daughter, something like that. Long story short, after 3 months we crossed
her over with the assistance of another medium. For three months, she was living with our
family and first, I thought I was going crazy. But, my wife confirmed that she saw the same
woman walking from our bedroom through the hallway into our daughter’s bedroom two years
ago. I didn’t want to tell you because you would’ve
thought I was crazy. I thought, honey, scoot over. I’m joining you. Call the men in the white suits, I’m ready. It was scary at first. Sandra: Oh, of course. Charles: I had no reference point to work
off of. Family was no help. I had been dismissed or told to ignore those
things, that they weren’t real when I was a kid. I don’t want to name names here, but I went
to a few local metaphysical shops, shall we say. It only reinforced my aversion to them. Sandra: Oh, okay. Alright. Charles: The information they gave me was
so off-beat and off the mark that it was ridiculous. None of it helped. It didn’t make any sense. I have a background in computer-science and
I’m very logic oriented. I’ve done my programming and do web-design. 2 + 2=4 in my world. This thing here that I was dealing with all
of a sudden didn’t add up. Sandra: No. Charles: Except the fact that there were historical
records confirming it. My wife had the same experience with the individual. There was a friend of a friend who called
me up and said that I had the ghost of Isabel with me. I never told my friend her name. Sandra: Oh. Charles: I knew at that point something was
going on beyond the obvious that there was a ghost appearing. Sandra: You just gave me goosebumps. Charles: She helped me cross over that day
after living with us for three months. From the time period that it began to take
place, January 24th to I would say May 20th or 17th of that same year, less than five
months. It was just really fast. I ended up starting to work on a professional
level for the public. Sandra: Can you back up for a second what
does cross-over mean? Charles: Crossing over is where you have an
earthbound spirit. That’s someone who hasn’t faced the life review. They haven’t left the earthbound plane. They are still holding onto this existence
and aren’t willing to continue their journey. It’s like someone sitting on the airplane
terminal and they haven’t gotten on the plane. They tend to be caught up in, I don’t want
to say psychosis, but it’s like you’re sitting in the corner saying oh gosh, I wish I hadn’t
have taken that left and I wouldn’t have been hit by that bus. You run over that for 100 years. Sandra: Right. Yeah, it could be denial, fear, unfinished
business. Okay. Charles: Exactly. Sandra: Got ya. Charles: Crossing over is simply when you
make contact with that person who’s not crossed over yet and they’re going up to a higher
frequency. When they go up to a higher frequency, then
everyone in spirit is visible entirely to them. So, while they’re in that ghost realm, they’re
kind of in their own little hell, if you will. It’s the netherworld and it’s frustrating
to be in that space. The best description I can give for it is
imagine, if you will, one of your dreams where you’re aware that you’re dreaming and that
you can move about and so forth it’s like a lucid dream where you’re aware you’re in
your home but you can’t escape it or wake up. That’s a good description of what it’s like
being a ghost, having those problems. Sandra: I had something like that happen once
and I didn’t even think of it. I was living in an attic bedroom, upstairs
at my mom’s house. I remember I went down for a nap and I don’t
know if lucid dreaming was what it was, but I woke up and this is what I thought I got
out of bed and I couldn’t move down the stairs. I couldn’t go down the stairs and it scared
the heck out of me. Charles: Exactly. Sandra: I threw myself out of bed and landed
on the floor. It was so real. Charles: You had an outer-body experience
for a moment. Sandra: Did I? Charles: I had a situation where I popped
out of my body. I had a ghost in the house, different one. It was a revolving door of ghosts for the
first five months. I saw this ghost and had already exited this
bedroom and I was having this dream but I was walking around my bedroom. I saw my wife beside me and myself in the
bed, but I get to my bedroom door and I walked right through it and there’s this ghost right
in the hallway and I freaked out because I realized my body was unattended. I have to go back. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: It felt like I was on the end of
an extension cord being retracted on a vacuum cleaner and I’m flying back into my body and
going backwards into it. I dropped back into it and there was no loss
of consciousness. I was in my body going straight from that
lucid-dreaming state, and I’m thrashing about but half of my body was moving since I hadn’t
fully settled in yet. I had half of my hands on the controls. Sandra: Right. Oh my gosh. Charles: There was that momentary panic and
then I settled in and could sit upright and I chased after the guy. Anyways. Sandra: Anyways, wild. There’s so much more to us than meets the
eye; it’s crazy. Charles: It’s insane. One of the things people talk about and what
we need to address early is the other side. I think there is a misnomer when we talk about
the other side, because I don’t think it’s removed from us. The only thing that is removed from us is
our perception. So, when someone is in spirit, they’re just
as much here as x-rays, gamma rays, or any other invisible energy form that, to us, is
beyond the spectrum of the naked-eye and for our scientific instruments, it’s a challenge. But, if we were to talk about x-rays and gamma
rays 300 years ago, then you’d be saying what?>>LAUGHTER Sandra: It’s impossible. Even the wireless internet around us now. Charles: Which is of course what we do with
telepathy. It’s binary code, from my understanding. So, after discovering the ability to communicate
with those in spirit, my wife asked me if I could connect with someone at will as opposed
to having the ghost of someone show up. So, she asked me to connect her with her grandfather. There were 15 specific questions she asked,
like what did he find on the side of a road and come back and give me one day as a gift
when I was 8? Sandra: That’s specific, okay. Charles: Okay, hold on a second. He’s showing me a long-headed, long-necked,
about 6-8 stuffed animal like a horse. She goes yeah, it’s a giraffe. Okay, pretty good. She asked me what kind of work he did. He responds and said well, it’s cabinet work. It’s carpentry but I do finished cabinets
in kitchens. Sandra: Mmhm. Charles: She knew that he was a carpenter,
but he never told her that he did finished cabinets in kitchens. She had to call her grandmother the next day
and ask her what grandpa did for a living and she confirmed it. Sandra: Wow. Charles: So after asking those questions and
getting them solidly verified, we realized something was going on. We were living at a veteran community in the
east-bay area, near San Francisco Sandra: Mmhm. Charles: My wife had made a friend downtown
who had this little bookstore, which was a metaphysical store. I wasn’t keen on the name since I didn’t consider
what I did to be a fairy-tale, but it was called that. And so, he told me and said; your wife informed
me of what you’re capable of doing, would you like to perform readings for the public
at my store? Sandra: Hm. Charles: He said that he could advertise it
on my e-mail list, and you can come in once a week and try it out. I had never tried anything like that. I thought it was an interesting idea and didn’t
realize animals could talk yet. I was only talking to human spirits at that
point. Sandra: Wow, that’s incredible in of itself. Charles: This was May, so remember I was a
complete skeptic at the end of January and by January 24th, I had the ghost appear in
my house. Then, by May 17th I was starting to do readings
for the general public. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: The first day, I had eight appointments
back-to-back. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: I had no idea what I was doing. I just knew that I could talk to spirits,
and I figured, well as long as I can talk to the spirits then I’m good. I’m golden. I don’t need to do anything, I’m just a switchboard
operator. So, I go and sit down and my first client
sits down and goes ‘what do you see in my career?’ I think, oh snap. I could’ve gotten brief on this one. Sandra: Yes. Charles: Oh, wait a moment you work in a hair
salon. And, you’ve got a new business that you’re
opening up. The lighting is key; I keep seeing this lighting
and you have a partner and then I begin going into great detail about the relationships
and I nailed everything. I gave her very sound business advice that
she was extremely grateful for. Sandra: Are you just seeing it in your imagination,
or knowing things? How? Charles: It’s a combination of things. Sandra: Huh. Charles: You know how and I have to go back
to, you know, the references to like computer-programming and stuff like that, since that’s how I understand
it. You know how when you have an Atari game-card,
those cassettes, there’s no loading required right? It’s just instantly there and there’s information
there. That’s one way I receive information. It’s called a direct-download with no knowledge
of receiving the information. It’s very frustrating for me to receive it
in that fashion, because I don’t have an opportunity to process it. It’s just there. Sandra: Okay. Charles: That’s one way. Another is a very clear I hear it. I can hear words, I can hear letters and sounds
such as when your cat is talking to me. Sometimes I’ll hear them purring in the exact
way it comes across. I might hear their meow, or your uncle’s raspy
tone of voice. Sandra: Mmhm. Charles: Or your annoying who has an annoying
high-pitched laugh. That all comes through. Sandra: Okay. Charles: And I’ll cover how that’s all possible
in just a moment, but for me, it’s really a very visceral experience. I hear, see, smell, taste, feel; emotions
and physical sensations. Nothing is off-limits. Pretty much anything goes. Sandra: Okay. Charles: So, to me, it’s like strapping into
a rollercoaster ride every day.>>LAUGHTER You never know where you’ll go. Sandra: No, and it’s emotional. Sure. Charles: Extremely so, today is no exception. So, after discovering the ability to communicate
with this person’s information that she was seeking and it wasn’t just someone in spirit
coming through but actually a real-world question and I was able to give real-world advice,
as opposed to hearing grandpa say ‘I love you’ still, you know? Sandra: Right. Charles: I was like wow, that’s kind of exciting. That’s different and I wasn’t expecting it. The next person sits down and says she is
nervous since she’s never done it before. I go, that’s okay. Sandra: Welcome to another episode of We Don’t
Die, where my goal to give you evidence that, although our bodies will disappear, we survive
physical death. When are aren’t afraid of death, we’re less afraid of life. From these
episodes, I aim for all of us to take more risks in our lives, go after our dreams, have
great relationships and some fun in the process. I’m your host, Sandra Champlain, author of
the international best-seller We Don’t Die: A Skeptic’s Discovery of Life After Death.
Today is a very special show. For those seeking to communicate with not only your loved ones
in spirit, but with your animal companions, both living and past, you are listening to
the right episode. Our guest today is Charles Peden, who is an internationally-recognized
animal communicator and psychic-medium. He works equally well with animals and spirits
of our departed loved ones. For the past eight years, Charles has worked alongside organizations
such as SPCA, The Humane Society, and others. From his home-office in the mountains near
Sacramento, California, Charles provides his services worldwide over the telephone, using
Skype on the computer as well as in person. Should you wish to connect with your pets
better or have a need for closure, or simply just want to check in with your departed loved
ones or family members, or even close friends, Charles can assist. Charles Peden, welcome
to We Don’t Die Radio. Charles: Thanks Sandra for having me on, it’s
a pleasure. Sandra: I was excited reading your bio. Excited
is word I get kind of nervous, kind of excited. It’s like opening a present and you never
know what you’ll get. We spoke a few moments before we pressed the record button and I
know you’re someone we’ll fall in love with. If you don’t mind, tell us a bit about you.
I don’t think when you woke up as a child and knew you wanted to be a psychic-medium
and animal communicator. Charles: No, I was going to go into forestry
grow trees or something like that. I remember this distinctly, I sat down with my guidance
counselor; I was working with the forest services and in a youth program. I was about, oh man,
11, 12, or 13 at the time. I thought that was what I was going to get into. At the time,
the spotted owl was an issue in Oregon where we were living on the coast. It was timber
and logging country. Being a psychic-medium, let alone talking to the animals like Dr.
Dolittle was certainly the furthest thing from my mind. Sandra: Right. Charles: I never entertained the thought and
sat down with the guidance counselor, saying yes. This is what you’ll do. Sandra: Nope. Charles: But, there were precursors to what
the future held for me. Around the age of 3 to 5, incidents occurred where I felt a
presence and saw someone who wasn’t there, ghostly figures. We had a fur-trader who would
come through. Then, there was the incidences with my animals. One passed and I saw her
about 6 months after passing. I brought it up with the family and they told me it wasn’t
possible and encouraged me to not discuss things that weren’t there, if you will. I
suppressed it, like most people do with early-childhood experiences that they cannot communicate with
their elders or authority figures about. Pretty soon, it was dismissed and I got caught up
in life. I was trying to get good grades, sports, and all that stuff. Fast forward to
January 24th of 2006, I had a ghost appear in my house. Sandra: Hm. Charles: I didn’t believe in ghosts, so I
went through the majority of my later-childhood years and my adult years as a skeptic of anything
of the paranormal nature. Sandra: Right. Charles: So, when the ghost appeared I didn’t
think it was a ghost. I thought it was someone burglarizing my house. It was hard to figure
out, since I was on the second floor and I saw this woman standing behind me. I was on
this condo on the second floor and I’m thinking, wait a minute. How’d you get in here? You’re
not my wife. There’s no open doors or windows. What happened? I do a double take and she’s
still walking towards me, but she enters through my chest in that classic horror picture move.
It was kind of like someone taking a DVD of their life experiences, and your playback
device for that experience. All of a sudden, these emotions started to well up and these
sensations that I couldn’t put my finger on. I couldn’t figure out the origin of these
feelings but I could feel these feelings of sorrow, loneliness and why did it have to
happen this way? Turned out she was murdered in her first trimester. Sandra: Oh my. Charles: There was a situation where it would’ve
not been good for the father, shall we say, if he had this child out of wedlock and it
was a poor immigrant’s daughter, something like that. Long story short, after 3 months
we crossed her over with the assistance of another medium. For three months, she was
living with our family and first, I thought I was going crazy. But, my wife confirmed
that she saw the same woman walking from our bedroom through the hallway into our daughter’s
bedroom two years ago. I didn’t want to tell you because you would’ve thought I was crazy.
I thought, honey, scoot over. I’m joining you. Call the men in the white suits, I’m
ready. It was scary at first. Sandra: Oh, of course. Charles: I had no reference point to work
off of. Family was no help. I had been dismissed or told to ignore those things, that they
weren’t real when I was a kid. I don’t want to name names here, but I went to a few local
metaphysical shops, shall we say. It only reinforced my aversion to them. Sandra: Oh, okay. Alright. Charles: The information they gave me was
so off-beat and off the mark that it was ridiculous. None of it helped. It didn’t make any sense.
I have a background in computer-science and I’m very logic oriented. I’ve done my programming
and do web-design. 2 + 2=4 in my world. This thing here that I was dealing with all
of a sudden didn’t add up. Sandra: No. Charles: Except the fact that there were historical
records confirming it. My wife had the same experience with the individual. There was
a friend of a friend who called me up and said that I had the ghost of Isabel with me.
I never told my friend her name. Sandra: Oh. Charles: I knew at that point something was
going on beyond the obvious that there was a ghost appearing. Sandra: You just gave me goosebumps. Charles: She helped me cross over that day
after living with us for three months. From the time period that it began to take place,
January 24th to I would say May 20th or 17th of that same year, less than five months.
It was just really fast. I ended up starting to work on a professional level for the public. Sandra: Can you back up for a second what
does cross-over mean? Charles: Crossing over is where you have an
earthbound spirit. That’s someone who hasn’t faced the life review. They haven’t left the
earthbound plane. They are still holding onto this existence and aren’t willing to continue
their journey. It’s like someone sitting on the airplane terminal and they haven’t gotten
on the plane. They tend to be caught up in, I don’t want to say psychosis, but it’s like
you’re sitting in the corner saying oh gosh, I wish I hadn’t have taken that left and I
wouldn’t have been hit by that bus. You run over that for 100 years. Sandra: Right. Yeah, it could be denial, fear,
unfinished business. Okay. Charles: Exactly. Sandra: Got ya. Charles: Crossing over is simply when you
make contact with that person who’s not crossed over yet and they’re going up to a higher
frequency. When they go up to a higher frequency, then everyone in spirit is visible entirely
to them. So, while they’re in that ghost realm, they’re kind of in their own little hell,
if you will. It’s the netherworld and it’s frustrating to be in that space. The best
description I can give for it is imagine, if you will, one of your dreams where you’re
aware that you’re dreaming and that you can move about and so forth it’s like a lucid
dream where you’re aware you’re in your home but you can’t escape it or wake up. That’s
a good description of what it’s like being a ghost, having those problems. Sandra: I had something like that happen once
and I didn’t even think of it. I was living in an attic bedroom, upstairs at my mom’s
house. I remember I went down for a nap and I don’t know if lucid dreaming was what it
was, but I woke up and this is what I thought I got out of bed and I couldn’t move down
the stairs. I couldn’t go down the stairs and it scared the heck out of me. Charles: Exactly. Sandra: I threw myself out of bed and landed
on the floor. It was so real. Charles: You had an outer-body experience
for a moment. Sandra: Did I? Charles: I had a situation where I popped
out of my body. I had a ghost in the house, different one. It was a revolving door of
ghosts for the first five months. I saw this ghost and had already exited this bedroom
and I was having this dream but I was walking around my bedroom. I saw my wife beside me
and myself in the bed, but I get to my bedroom door and I walked right through it and there’s
this ghost right in the hallway and I freaked out because I realized my body was unattended.
I have to go back. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: It felt like I was on the end of
an extension cord being retracted on a vacuum cleaner and I’m flying back into my body and
going backwards into it. I dropped back into it and there was no loss of consciousness.
I was in my body going straight from that lucid-dreaming state, and I’m thrashing about
but half of my body was moving since I hadn’t fully settled in yet. I had half of my hands
on the controls. Sandra: Right. Oh my gosh. Charles: There was that momentary panic and
then I settled in and could sit upright and I chased after the guy. Anyways. Sandra: Anyways, wild. There’s so much more
to us than meets the eye; it’s crazy. Charles: It’s insane. One of the things people
talk about and what we need to address early is the other side. I think there is a misnomer
when we talk about the other side, because I don’t think it’s removed from us. The only
thing that is removed from us is our perception. So, when someone is in spirit, they’re just
as much here as x-rays, gamma rays, or any other invisible energy form that, to us, is
beyond the spectrum of the naked-eye and for our scientific instruments, it’s a challenge.
But, if we were to talk about x-rays and gamma rays 300 years ago, then you’d be saying what?>>LAUGHTER Sandra: It’s impossible. Even the wireless
internet around us now. Charles: Which is of course what we do with
telepathy. It’s binary code, from my understanding. So, after discovering the ability to communicate
with those in spirit, my wife asked me if I could connect with someone at will as opposed
to having the ghost of someone show up. So, she asked me to connect her with her grandfather.
There were 15 specific questions she asked, like what did he find on the side of a road
and come back and give me one day as a gift when I was 8? Sandra: That’s specific, okay. Charles: Okay, hold on a second. He’s showing
me a long-headed, long-necked, about 6-8 stuffed animal like a horse. She goes yeah, it’s a
giraffe. Okay, pretty good. She asked me what kind of work he did. He responds and said
well, it’s cabinet work. It’s carpentry but I do finished cabinets in kitchens. Sandra: Mmhm. Charles: She knew that he was a carpenter,
but he never told her that he did finished cabinets in kitchens. She had to call her
grandmother the next day and ask her what grandpa did for a living and she confirmed
it. Sandra: Wow. Charles: So after asking those questions and
getting them solidly verified, we realized something was going on. We were living at
a veteran community in the east-bay area, near San Francisco Sandra: Mmhm. Charles: My wife had made a friend downtown
who had this little bookstore, which was a metaphysical store. I wasn’t keen on the name
since I didn’t consider what I did to be a fairy-tale, but it was called that. And so,
he told me and said; your wife informed me of what you’re capable of doing, would you
like to perform readings for the public at my store? Sandra: Hm. Charles: He said that he could advertise it
on my e-mail list, and you can come in once a week and try it out. I had never tried anything
like that. I thought it was an interesting idea and didn’t realize animals could talk
yet. I was only talking to human spirits at that point. Sandra: Wow, that’s incredible in of itself. Charles: This was May, so remember I was a
complete skeptic at the end of January and by January 24th, I had the ghost appear in
my house. Then, by May 17th I was starting to do readings for the general public. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: The first day, I had eight appointments
back-to-back. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: I had no idea what I was doing. I
just knew that I could talk to spirits, and I figured, well as long as I can talk to the
spirits then I’m good. I’m golden. I don’t need to do anything, I’m just a switchboard
operator. So, I go and sit down and my first client sits down and goes ‘what do you see
in my career?’ I think, oh snap. I could’ve gotten brief on this one. Sandra: Yes. Charles: Oh, wait a moment you work in a hair
salon. And, you’ve got a new business that you’re opening up. The lighting is key; I
keep seeing this lighting and you have a partner and then I begin going into great detail about
the relationships and I nailed everything. I gave her very sound business advice that
she was extremely grateful for. Sandra: Are you just seeing it in your imagination,
or knowing things? How? Charles: It’s a combination of things. Sandra: Huh. Charles: You know how and I have to go back
to, you know, the references to like computer-programming and stuff like that, since that’s how I understand
it. You know how when you have an Atari game-card, those cassettes, there’s no loading required
right? It’s just instantly there and there’s information there. That’s one way I receive
information. It’s called a direct-download with no knowledge of receiving the information.
It’s very frustrating for me to receive it in that fashion, because I don’t have an opportunity
to process it. It’s just there. Sandra: Okay. Charles: That’s one way. Another is a very
clear I hear it. I can hear words, I can hear letters and sounds such as when your cat is
talking to me. Sometimes I’ll hear them purring in the exact way it comes across. I might
hear their meow, or your uncle’s raspy tone of voice. Sandra: Mmhm. Charles: Or your annoying who has an annoying
high-pitched laugh. That all comes through. Sandra: Okay. Charles: And I’ll cover how that’s all possible
in just a moment, but for me, it’s really a very visceral experience. I hear, see, smell,
taste, feel; emotions and physical sensations. Nothing is off-limits. Pretty much anything
goes. Sandra: Okay. Charles: So, to me, it’s like strapping into
a rollercoaster ride every day.>>LAUGHTER You never know where you’ll go. Sandra: No, and it’s emotional. Sure. Charles: Extremely so, today is no exception.
So, after discovering the ability to communicate with this person’s information that she was
seeking and it wasn’t just someone in spirit coming through but actually a real-world question
and I was able to give real-world advice, as opposed to hearing grandpa say ‘I love
you’ still, you know? Sandra: Right. Charles: I was like wow, that’s kind of exciting.
That’s different and I wasn’t expecting it. The next person sits down and says she is
nervous since she’s never done it before. I go, that’s okay. So am I I haven’t done
it before, little did she know. Sandra: Right. Charles: I see this dog coming through. I
see this German Shepherd. I say to my client that I have a German Shepherd, does that mean
anything to you? She says how it is her sister’s dog and she jumps up. Her sister was in the
store and she has her come and sit down. It tells me how old when she passed, her passing,
so on and so forth. It’s a wonderful connection. I’m going, wow. Dogs in spirit can talk too? Sandra: That’s cool. Charles: That’s cool. That was my thought
too.>>LAUGHTER I’m like, that changes everything. That’s
exciting. Because what I was discovering is that if I tried to practice on connecting
with someone’s loved ones in spirit some people get squeamish when I ask, and they’re like
why do you want to connect with my dead relatives for? That’s kind of weird. Yet, when it came
to the animals, I discovered very soon that you could say oh, by the way, I see your dog
talking with you. Oh my goodness, you have an Australian Shepherd, don’t you? He’s eight
years old and told me that he drowned. Oh, you got him!? You have Sparky? Can I talk
to him? It was a completely different reception. Sandra: Sure. Charles: So, that’s one of the reasons that
I do focus on animals so much. I enjoy doing both. But, the animals was a really good way
to get your foot in the door with the whole concept of there being an afterlife. Sandra: Right. Charles: And being comfortable with those
ideas and such. So, after that first day of readings, it became very clear that this was
something that was going to definitely work out for me. Sandra: Sure. Charles: And, I was the head of the North
American Association. I had a business called ‘By-the-Bay Treasures.’ I was leading beach
tours and kayaking tours. I was on the Travel Channel and Coastal Living Magazine, San Francisco
Chronicles, NPR I wasn’t hurting for press. Sandra: Yes. Charles: I wasn’t hurting for attention. I
was quite happy doing what I was doing. I was not looking for anything else in my life.
I was content. Yet, there was this thing happening. I started doing it on the side, one day a
week and pretty soon it got to the point where I’d answer the phone and it was my company,
which is still there since I sold it in 2008. I answered the phone and it’d go something
like this yeah, I have those drillbits. Yeah, diamond-tip. Yeah, those can do seaglass very
well. Didn’t you have a stillborn female six years ago? Sandra: Oh, jeez Charles. Charles: This is an actual one that happened. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: She goes, um, yes. I’m like, oh.
My bad. You’re not ready to talk about that, are you? She’s like no. I’m like, about that
drillbit order click. Hello? Honey, we lost another one. I think I need to talk about
my career.>>LAUGHTER Sandra: Yeah. Charles: And it became a major issue. I mean,
everything I was doing, anywhere I’d go, it was cropping up. So, I couldn’t do my regular
business without that interfering. Sandra: Uh-huh. Charles: That year, I hosted the North American
Seaglass Festival. I hosted the inaugural festival. This last year, they had over 5,000
in attendance. In our first year, we had over 1,000 in attendance and did very well. The
coconut grove on the Santa Cruz boardwalk. Sandra: Nice. Charles: Like I said, not hurting for attention
or something to do. Quite content. But, it became clear that there was something else
going on and maybe the world didn’t need more people doing seaglass but they needed something
else. Sandra: Right. Charles: And so, I had that conversation that
everyone has with their mother after this happens to them. Sandra: Yep. Charles: I sat down with her and told her
that I was thinking about being a ghostbuster, or something like that.>>LAUGHTER You should’ve heard her response. Didn’t go
very well. Sandra: I can imagine. Charles: Yeah, like a lead balloon. So, now
it’s supported but back then, no. It was an up-hill battle. That was before grandmother
was brought through for her. Sandra: Awe. Charles: So then, I think it was about four
or five months later. I was doing a reading for someone on the phone and I still was holding
onto my By-the-Bay Treasures and I was looking for a buyer, but I did a thing where half
of these interferences with my business I said, universe, you’ll send me a sign. Someone
out there knows what I need to do. Obviously, this is becoming an issue so I got on the
kayak and I asked the universe to send me a crystal clear sign: tell me what I’m supposed
to do with my work and life. For about twenty minutes, I’m drifting out in the currents
and then I’m pushed up to the shore on the north shore. I pull my kayak up the shore
line and I drop it on the high-tide mark. Right off the bow of the kayak, six inches
to the right is a skull that looks like a humans, like a Day of the Dead style skull.
It’s about the size of a gear-shift for a ’57 Chevy. Pretty cool looking. Definitely
hand-crafted. I looked down at it and I’m like, well, could’ve found an incredible piece
of seaglass. That answers my question. Oh yeah, very clear. Turned around and sold my
business in 2008, which was the worst time considering the economy. Sandra: Yeah, sure. Charles: Sold it immediately. I was shocked,
everything worked. And so, then I started to move forward with this full-time and that’s
when the animals started talking. We went to the zoo and my wife told me, saying the
bird tells me that he has a big head because he has a big brain. I’m like, yeah right.>>LAUGHTER Sure. I wasn’t buying it. Then, she told me
that the bears, when she asked for them to look at me they did. I wasn’t buying that
you could talk to a live animal. It was at this point on deceased animals and humans. Sandra: Yes. Charles: And other general psychic information
like career, love, stuff like that. Sandra: Stuff like that. It’s so funny career,
love, just like stuff like that. Deceased people and animals. Nothing else. Go ahead. Charles: Yeah. So, then I’m doing this reading
where I’m connecting with this lady and her father is coming through. It’s a fantastic
connection with her father, just really good material. It’s just incredible how much detail
he is bringing forth. After our conversation with her father, then the cat jumps into the
conversation. The cat is telling me, my name is Maury but it’s spelled in a Jewish way.
He courted his person for three weeks, just sitting outside a tree-branch outside her
window of her bedroom, and so on and so forth. Everything is confirmed. Sandra: This is a live cat or a deceased cat? Charles: That’s the kicker I go, this is great
and everything, I love this connection but I have a bit of a problem; I can’t figure
out how he died. How did he pass? She goes, he’s sitting on my lap and purring. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: My response was uhm, excuse me. I
know he’s close to you and I feel that his spirit is close to you, but seriously how
did he die? She said that you don’t seem to understand, he’s alive. He’s alive? Oh, jeez.
That changes everything. Wow. This is like seven months into it, at this point. Sandra: Okay. Charles: At that point, I’m just in shock.
I immediately call up someone from the seaglass assocation and I know they have a ranch, although
I’ve never met them and know nothing about them. I go, look, I discovered something crazy
and I need to run it by you. I discovered that I can talk to live animals. She goes,
okay. I go, just roll with this. Do you have someone you want to talk to? She goes, yeah.
How about Frankie? I go okay, your rat-terrier? She goes how do you know it’s a rat-terrier?
I go that’s what she is, he’s like three right? Then I said, well, he tells me that he hurts.
He tells me that his chest, it’s on the right-side. The other dogs punked him. She goes yeah,
they were punking him this morning. I don’t know anything about this injury. She rolls
him over and finds a puncture wound on his chest. She’s like oh my goodness. I go, oh
my goodness. Thanks for the confirmation. Honey, things are different. Sandra: That’s so wild. Oh my gosh. Charles: Then I told her, sorry about the
bird and the comments about the bears. They sure were connecting with you. Got it.>>LAUGHTER So then, I’m sitting here at Fairy-Tale love
the name of the place. Sandra: Right. Charles: And no offense to Ron, if you’re
listening to this thanks for providing the space and being a friend. But, yeah. Then,
the next thing happening is that I have live animals connecting with me and this gentleman
walks in. His name is Peter Wilson who is the director of the North Bay Humane Society.
He says that they’re holding an upcoming fundraiser and we’re soliciting donations from area businesses,
are you interested in donating? I didn’t have a client at the time in the store. I said,
you know what? Tell you what, I’ll donate a reading. You can have a free half-hour,
hour gift-certificate to put in the auction. He said it was fantastic and he’d love to
do that. He does that with me. A week later, he contacts me again and says that he has
a problem. He has this dog he can’t figure out and asks for me to speak to him. The dog
tells me he’s from the South-Pacific Islands. I’m like whoa, you’re in Vallejo. How’d you
come from the South-Pacific Islands? The dog’s like, bring it up. So I mention it to him
and he goes, absolutely. We had him surrendered from a couple that came from Samoa. Sandra: Wow. Charles: I’m like, you’re kidding me. Okay.
He’s talking. So I ask the dog and say, what else do you have to say? He says well, the
home food with the oatmeal and eggs was really good. I want more. Of course, Peter had done
that for him and made homemade food for him. Sandra: My jaw has just dropped to the ground
right now. Like, oh my gosh.>>LAUGHTER Charles: So then, Peter tells me and goes
hey, listen. How about you do us one better? Can you be there in-person so that our guests
can connect with their animals through you? He said that he’d pay me. I go, whoa. Let
me get this straight this is a fundraiser and you’ll pay me to be there? I had to consult
with my accountant and of course, they gave me the green-light. Long story short, that
began a relationship with them over the course of the next several years where I’d show up
at events and fundraisers, talking to the animals for them. We also did a shoot with
radio-television Luxomberg out in Europe and it was a blast. I got the opportunity to connect
with John Provobst who worked on Lassie and worked with him. Sandra: That’s fantastic. Charles: And his wife Laurie who is fantastic
as well. She’s a Hollywood historian, author and producer. Long story short I pretty much,
after that, began doing a lot of different fundraisers for Rescue Ranch, let’s see here,
the SPCA and other groups. There was even a rat-rescue group, so on and so forth. It
was really just an absolute blast. I think one of the highlights was once in Chicago;
I was doing a fundraiser for a launch of a rescue called K9’s for Keeps.org. They do
bully dogs. That’s their primary focus, the bully breeds. I’m bringing through this Pitbull
who had this harness created for him and I’m describing it to the audience and a woman
goes, yeah, I have a Pitbull but he never had the chance to use a harness. He died before
he was able to use it. We tried to retrofit it and size it for him properly, but he died
before he had the chance to utilize it. The message was that even though I never got to
use it, the fact she did that meant a lot and I really appreciate the gesture. There
was more to it, but that was the gist of it. So around the heels of that, I see a monkey. Sandra: Hm, okay. Charles: Capuchin monkey. I’m like, no. I’m
working with bullied dog breeds, why do I see a monkey? It doesn’t make sense. The monkey
is adamant bring me through. I tell the audience that I know we’re doing a bullied breeds thing,
but I have a monkey here. The woman who just brought through that dog goes up and says,
yeah I know that monkey. It’s tied to her childhood. She had a very close relationship
with that monkey. I’m like, okay. Yep. Just gotta roll with whatever you see, no matter
where you’re at. Sandra: Right. Charles: There is some pretty incredible stuff
happening from time-to-time. One of the big focuses I have, even though it’s something
that isn’t what I would call enjoyable is missing animal cases. Sandra: Tell us about those. Charles: I deal with a lot of those, and I
recover a lot of those. Unfortunately, not every story is a happy one. I recover a lot
of bodies too. Sometimes, all we can find is little bits of fur or whatever. Sandra: Yeah. Charles: We aren’t able to find anything on
a physical nature because of the predatory environment or maintenance, sanitation crews,
so on and so forth. When this happens, and it happened today, when the odds of locating
this one dog I was connecting with today was slim-to-none. However, we reached out to a
family member connected to the party we were working with. We pull in a party that we know,
for a fact is deceased human. We ask them and confirm the connection by describing their
age, manner of passing, and physical appearance to me. I bring that forward and it’s confirmed.
He told me that he worked for Pratt & Whitney; worked there all his life. Then, he confirmed
very clearly that yep, that’s the dog. The dog isn’t with us. Death is going to happen
to the dog. Now, even though we won’t be able to necessarily recover that dog’s physical
body, we have a third party confirmation from someone who we know, for a fact, is in spirit
and is providing specific details and information about themselves. And so, it’s a way of getting
closure even if it’s not necessarily physically possible. I’ll use that technique to deal
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your website about a missing Charles: Chewy? Sandra: I think so. Charles: That’s such a cool case. He went
missing in Tuscon right after his family moved there. It was funny because one of my criteria
for confirming it is well, the way I work is no descriptions. I don’t want a photograph
or know a breed. I don’t want to know their age. All I need is the name and species, that’s
it. So, using that alone, I’ll tell you what they look like, how old they are, and any
other information to confirm the connection. At that point, anything brought forward has
much more weight to it. Lots of people are going to ask you what did they look like?
How old are they? What’s their temperament? So on and so forth. At that point, there’s
no burden of proof on your psychic whatsoever. Sandra: Right, right. Charles: That’s no good because you can spin
anything. Sandra: Right, and that’s why most of us are
skeptical in this world of the paranormal. Charles: Oh, yeah. It’s like well anyways. Sandra: Chewy. Charles: Let me talk about the process a bit
after Chewy. He tells me, yeah he’s eight. But he’s not, he’s actually a different age.
When the family say that he isn’t eight, I tell him that and then he tells me the right
age. It’s then confirmed. I ask about the eight and I go why did you mention eight?
He says that he’s on Eighth Avenue. I go, what? I go, yeah. There’s a roofing supply
company and describing these details and he cannot go anywhere because his paws hurt.
They go and drive right to that spot, sure enough, he’s sitting right there. He had water,
which was one of the questions. He was sitting next to a leaky garden hose. It was a roofing
supply company he was next to. He relayed that to me by showing those devices that are
used to convey roofing tiles up on the roof those conveyor systems on trucks. Sandra: Yeah. Charles: It was pretty cool. Located another
cat where the cat described in detail this overwhelming smell of freshly-sprayed paint
in the area. Only one house in the neighborhood had a fresh coat of paint applied on it in
the past week. We found that cat immediately. It was in the yard that was immediately across
the street from the house. Little things like that come in handy. One of the more unusual
ones was a missing turtle.>>LAUGHTER I was sitting here going, yeah, okay. How
far is a turtle going to get? Are you serious?>>LAUGHTER Okay, I’ll try to keep a straight-face. So,
you have a missing turtle. Sandra: Yes. Charles: I talk to the turtle and he describes
to me what type of turtle they are, the pattern on their shell, their size, and I bring it
forward and it’s confirmed. I’m excited now because I have contact.>>LAUGHTER Sandra: This is so sweet, it really is. Charles: So the turtle goes, I’m in the dirty
laundry. All I can smell is dirty laundry and I’m told it’s in the boy’s room and the
turtle is in the boy’s pile of dirty laundry. The client is insisting that there’s no piles
of dirty laundry in it. Sandra: Okay. Charles: I’m going, yeah right. What world
do you live in? Sandra: Yeah, exactly. Charles: But nope, it’s confirmed because
the turtle goes but, I’m not in the house. I’m in another building. I’m in the laundry-room.
It’s in the garage. So, I bring up that. She goes that there’s no way it’s in the garage
because you have to exit the door, open another door and go in that door and there’s just
no way. Sandra: Right. Charles: The turtle is adamant. I’m in the
pile of dirty laundry in the garage. Sandra: This is great. Charles: So, she hangs up and calls me back
about 20 minutes later. She goes, yeah we found the turtle. He was in the dirty laundry.
It had picked up the turtle four days ago with the dirty clothes and dropped it in the
pile and the turtle was almost dead. There was limited oxygen and whatever else, no water
or food, you get the idea. Sandra: Charles, this is just freaking phenomenal. Charles: I don’t think the wash cycle would’ve
been going. Sandra: You’re just so phenomenal; I live
with my aunt who is just ten years older than me and we were talking about animals. We have
a cat named Harry. Charles: Mmhm. Sandra: The love that we feel for our animals,
I believe, because now I’ve lost both people and pets but, in some cases, the love for
the pets is more than the love for people because of that unconditional love. Charles: I like that you acknowledge the bond,
but I don’t like calling it unconditional. Let me tell you Sandra: Tell me. Charles: There are lots of conditions.>>LAUGHTER Sandra: Okay. Charles: But, it’s a pure connection and a
lot of it is that we’re more honest with them and here’s the kicker: we live in society,
today. We have this big idea that we have something called privacy. Sandra: Right. Charles: It’s a hot-button issue. It’s constantly
being eroded by Google, Facebook or some other entity but the fact of the matter is that
when it comes to the other side, to those in spirit, to animals who we can communicate
with on a telepathic basis 24/7 privacy is a fallacy. It doesn’t exist. It simply isn’t
there. When you talk to a dog, or any other animal, and ask how they relate to humans,
they say that humans are like open books. I’m like, oh really? So, you pretty much know
anything you want to? Oh yeah, we spend enough looking into their pasts and we can see anything
that we want to. I’m like, wow. Yeah, I know about that. Sandra: Isn’t that interesting? Charles: So, I had a client not too long ago
who complained that their dog was very human aggressive to a particular individual and
I asked who it is. The dog described the person in detail and the client confirms that’s the
person that they’re having an issue with their dog. I say to the dog then what’s the problem?
The dog goes that he’s casing the electronic. Excuse me? So, this is the guy who’s doing
the tiling in the bathroom. He’s a tile guy. Apparently, this contractor isn’t all on the
up-and-up. Three weeks later, he gets arrested for burglary in the town over that he finished
doing work in. The dog knew he was bad news and tried to let his person down. So often,
I’ll share little secrets. That event that took place not too long ago at Jack London
Square, where I was doing a fundraiser for the SPCA. This couple came up with their beautiful
golden Lab, and the dog turns to me and says that I go to the track. I was like, oh, you
go to the track? What do you do at the track? I sit in the car, in the parking lot and my
dad bets on the ponies. Sandra: A-ha. Charles: I happen to know that the exit is
one-off from the big-leash dog park, Point Isabel. It’s Golden-Gate Field we’re talking
about. Sandra: Okay. Charles: So, I bring that up and the gentleman
immediately begins walking off and his wife calls off after him. She goes, honey, you
been gambling again? He rumbles under his breath that he knew this was a bad idea and
walks off. I’m like, this is an interesting start. What else you got for me dog? My boy
doesn’t play with me anymore, just wants to play video games. I’m looking at this boy
with his mom, the dad’s already gone, and I turn to the mom and I’m like, well, your
dog tells me that the boy doesn’t play with him anymore. She says that it’s true. What
game is he playing? So, I’m like hey dog, bail me out. What game? He goes, Call of Duty
and shows me the box-cover art. So I bring that forward and the boy’s jaw drops and looks
at his mom and the dog and he’ll never be the same again. Sandra: Holy cow. Charles: Got ratted out by the dog as to what
he was doing. I thought it was hilarious. It happens all the time. Sandra: Oh my gosh. Charles: So, the bottom-line is this: to me,
dogs cats and other species are just like you and I. There’s only one difference the
vehicle we have here. And our experience levels and everything else, but soul is a soul. The
vehicle is a vehicle. So, when you pull up to a stop sign and the person sitting next
to you is driving a scooter on your left and the guy on the right is in a truck, you don’t
think any less or more of them. Sandra: Right. Charles: They’re just vehicles on the road
of life, like you and I. At the end of the day, when we get out of our vehicles, we’re
on a level playing field. We don’t separate places. They have souls. They’re not soulless.
Some people want us to believe that. So, from where I’m sitting, it’s a very dynamic existence
where they constantly read our minds on a telepathic basis, through binary code. Sandra: Say more about that. You mentioned
binary code before and I don’t know what you mean. Charles: When I first reach out for someone,
I’m looking for a yes and no response. It’s like when you call someone on the phone and
you either hearing it ringing actively on the other end or there is dead-air, meaning
it’s not active. Right? Sandra: Right. Charles: So, if I go to connect with someone
and they’re responding, I feel some energy, this feedback loop coming through. That’s
equal to someone going okay, yeah, go ahead. You know? Sandra: Yeah. Charles: And, if nothing is coming through
and they aren’t answering or they’re ignoring you, incapable of doing so at the time. So,
what happens is that it’s like working with rabbit-ears on an old antenna where you initially
may be dealing with a fuzzy image that’s coming in. It’s a bit unclear, you can get the outline
and kind of see you’re dealing with a cat versus a dog, so on and so forth, but all
of a sudden the picture is crystal clear, the color comes flying in, smells, sights,
sounds it’s all there. You can be at various levels of either a tenative connection or
one so connected that you feel like you’re experiencing it firsthand. There’s everything
in between. Sandra: Fantastic. Charles: With binary code, let’s talk about
what the body does. It’s a vehicle. So, a vehicle has sensors like your curb sensors
that alert you, oh you idiot. You’re scraping the curb. Your parallel parking needs attention.
So, when we burn our fingers, say for example; you touch a hot plate and burn your hand.
There’s that split-second delay. What’s happening between that delay of you registering that
pain and that pain actually being delivered to your hand or the burn? Sandra: Right. Charles: There’s information traveling up
your nervous system which is similar the hardboard in your vehicle. There’s a packet of data
coming up that nervous system wiring and that packet is comprised of little blips of energy
and flat lines, basically binary code. So, the same way that your smart phone can show
you full color pictures and movements, a video, with sound. Sandra: Yes. Charles: Or it can bring across this text
you get the idea. Sandra: I do. Charles: The way that takes place is the same
as how I get my information. I don’t need to understand how binary code works, just
the interface of how it works. When we’re told to meditate, we make a big mistake. Sandra: What do you mean? Charles: Most of us are told to clear our
mind. Compartmentalize. Identify. Label and clear. Sandra: Yes. Charles: You just threw the baby out with
the bath water and you’re ready for a deep sleep. Rip van Winkle would be proud. At that
point, you just dismissed everything coming in. Just like a smart phone, there’s multiple
sources of information all displayed on one screen. So, regardless of whether you’re receiving
a Skype call from Hong Kong or are playing a game that’s on your hard drive on the phone,
it’s the same screen and interacting the same, right? Sandra: Right. Charles: The mind is the same. When you look
at your mind, one of the first things to do is to begin asking yourself, this is the kicker
did I put this piece of information here? Was this self-generated? Is this a piece of
information coming from another source? Sandra: Okay. Charles: You’re looking for little energy
pulses. The energy pulses a yes. It’ll feel like an electrical discharge, a mild adrenaline
burst, or something akin to that. It’s like when you get goosebumps on the back of your
neck. Sandra: Which has happened like 12 times since
we began talking, by the way. Charles: Eh, never happens. Anyways. So, what
happens is that as you’re making connections with those yes and no’s, yes is a pulse and
no is a flat line, you will then morph into full images and other stuff in your mind.
So, usually and initially the connection is very yes/no formatted but it morphs into a
richer, more enjoyable experience in the sense that it’s more visceral. There’s more data
there. I’ll give you a good example. I was on a safari not too long ago. We met this
Cape Buffalo. We’ll call her Sally. Not the real name gotta protect the identities. So,
the safari tour-guide driving the jeep stopped in front of her and says, does Sally have
anything she’d like to tell us. We’re being filmed for this on camera. I asked Sally and
Sally’s response was quick and she goes, yes. Those apples, the ones he brings by. Oh goodness,
they’re so good. All of a sudden, I got the sensation of this red delicious apple in the
back of my throat, feeling the juices running down. I could tell how crisp it was, the flavor
of it, the temperature I could tell you. All these details came rushing through concerning
this apple that she had enjoyed. So, I bring that forward and he says that no one knows
about that, but I sneak her one everyday.>>LAUGHTER Sandra: That’s so beautiful. Charles: And so, of course, she’s asking for
another one and how much she enjoys getting them from him. I thought that was very cool.
The big difference is that if we were communicating in English, it would’ve gone something like
I miss the apples that he brings me. I’d go, oh really? What kind of apple? Well, it’s
a yellow apple what else? So on and so forth. With the telepathic connection, it’s a visceral
connection where it wasn’t an image of the apple but me feeling the sensation of her
eating that apple and all the sensations that go with it. To take that a step further, I
was at a dinner party with some SPCA volunteers as well as people who work in wild-life rehab,
who I didn’t know at the time. I thought we were dealing with domestic animals, initially.
We’re enjoying dinner and a guy goes, you’re the guy who talks to animals, right? I go
yes. He asks if I’m picking up on anything today. I go, yeah there’s a large bird. That’s
nasty, ick. Sandra: Oh no. Charles: Who’s job is it to feed him microwaved,
thawed, frozen mice? Sandra: Oh, disgusting. Charles: You have no idea. That was the worst
flavor I’ve had in my mouth. I’m sitting at the table trying to get it out of my mouth.
Like, more wine please. Oh boy, it was nasty. So then, the owl tells me and goes by the
way, let me just tell you the difference. Then I could taste what it was like to have
fresh mice in my mouth. Foodie revolution it was fresh, it was crazy. It was night and
day. So they’re bringing that forward and the guy to my right says yeah, it sounds like
you’re connecting with my owl. I work in wild-life rehab and we just had this owl come in and
it’s my job to feed him the microwaved, thawed mice. I go, really? You want to know how he
broke his right wing? He hit a utility line. Yeah, we were wondering about that. Yeah. Sandra: Amazing. Charles: That was that. Sandra: Wow. Charles: Wild animals communicate at the same
level; there’s no difference. Sandra: I’m just stunned right now. We have
a cat named Harry and he loves my aunt and follows her everywhere, cuddles with her.
He looks at me and is like yeah, whatever. Doesn’t jump on my lap or nothing. I’ve always
thought, well, it’s okay. Some animals love people certainly more than others and today
I had to take him to the vet. It’s me taking him and he didn’t want any interest. What
this is telling me is like I love Harry, but I can talk to him and I can be with him more
and it’s to take more of an effort, and it’s fine if Donna is his favorite, but to love
him and include him. Charles: That happens that’s one of my actual
go-to questions, oftentimes, to verify a connection is; I was having a chat with a parrot the
other day in India who went missing. Sandra: I don’t mean to laugh, but it sounds
funny. Charles: Wait until I tell you about the rattlesnakes.
So, I’m chatting with this parrot and the parrot tells me very clearly what direction
he was seeing leaving the home, how old he is, how long he’s lived there, what his house
looks like in the sense of what his cage looked like, if it was round, so on and so forth
I got a wealth of details coming through. Then I ask him where he is. He goes, mm. I’m
like, oh you’ve got to be kidding me. He’s like, no. I’m having a good time and I’m not
in any hurry to come back. My wings are doing good right now. I’m like, yeah. We aren’t
seeing him anytime soon. Sandra: Right. Charles: By the way, the person you’re talking
to I really don’t care about. I love the mom, his wife. I’m bonded to her. She’s my person.
I bring that forward and she confirms. I’m hoping that he has enough of emotional bonds
with that mom to want to come back. But, there is something I run into and it’s a difficult
tightrope that I walk and it’s exotics. Iguanas, even fish and others that we keep in a fairly
unnatural setting. Sandra: Right. Charles: With the parrots, unfortunately,
they’re very communal and they want to be in a huge flock. I had this one bird I was
talking to after his passing and it showed him flying down the Amazon with all these
other birds, wing-tip to wing-tip. He’s like, I’m finally able to do what I was meant to
do. That’s a really tough area to be in. I have to deal with those, too. Sandra: Do you, Charles, believe that our
souls have purpose in our lives now? Both animals and human-beings. Charles: I do, but I think the purpose is
a lot more benign than most people think. Sandra: What do you think? Charles: I think most people put too much
importance on it in the sense that you have a particular life lesson that you need to
learn. That’s not what I’ve been hearing as far as messages on the other side. The message
from the other side, if there is a general consensus as far as why we’re here, it’s to
have the opportunity to take a step out of a video-game environment where there is no
serious consequences for your actions you can’t die on the other side, so there aren’t
challenges. If you’re on a roller-coaster where you feel like you may be launched into
space at any moment, that’s exciting. Sandra: Sure. Charles: When you’re in a static environment
where there’s no opportunity for loss and to have loss means you have gain. It becomes
boring. It’s not very exciting and there’s really no reason for being, almost. But, I
don’t want to say anything entirely like that. Sandra: No, I understand. Charles: You know what I’m saying. They make
it clear that being here is an incredible gift. There’s a high demand to come here.
Those who come here are aware of the difficult situations that are stepping in, but they’re
willing to take those odds and move forward anyways. Think about the child being born
into difficult conditions in any third-world countries, or even our own. Sandra: Yes. Charles: I have a firm belief, from my experiences,
that they have a pretty good idea that’s about to happen and yet they’re comfortable with
it to the point of well, beats having no shot at it. I’ll take it. Played the lottery? Sure,
let’s see what happens. So, it’s a way for the soul or the spirit to challenge itself
and to grow and have these experiences that are visceral in a sense that we wouldn’t have
them if we were not here. So, when you’re on a video-game in avatar mode, or where you’re
invincible, the game is initially fun but then it becomes boring and you lose interest.
The stakes are no longer there. Sandra: Yes. Charles: I see a great stream of continuity
that runs through our lifetimes. It’s not a set of starts, stops there’s much more continuity.
People often ask me about reincarnation. I see where that may take place, but certainly
not the time frame that people may think. There’s no situation I’ve ran into yet where
an animal has came back to them in a present lifetime after passing in an initial body.
The reasons for that are numerous. For one, do you remember your past life? Sandra: Not so much. Charles: Thank goodness. Could you imagine
getting in a brand new car and all of a sudden, you’re a quarter mile down the road and the
engine lights on, the tires are all bald, your transmission is shot and you’re turning
back to the dealership like, excuse me. Mr. car salesman, you sold me a lemon. He laughs
and goes, sir. You have a brand new vehicle. You have to let that old vehicle out of your
head because it’s holding you back. You’re like, oh that’s right. It’s brand new, I can
actually look through the windshield again. Then you’re off and running. If we had all
these past experiences with physical ailments coming into our new ones, let alone the materials
from these relationships, then it’d become overwhelming. Sandra: Definitely. Charles: As a result, they don’t have an interface
that can handle the amount of information while we’re in full-spirit. We have a safety
mechanism which shields us from that, so we can focus on this time around, doing what
we need to in this particular vehicle. Sandra: That’s awesome. Charles: If we were to turn around and reincarnate
with those individuals we had our trip with and they’re living, we short-change ourselves
for closure and being able to watch over them until they can join us. Sandra: That’s the next question I was going
to ask you. When our days do come to depart in this life, are we going to see again our
pets and people? Charles: Absolutely. It’s one of the very
first things that take place. Regardless of what time-period they’re from and regardless
of the connection of the animal, I’ve seen them connect with us. I have a client who
is going to be in her 90’s, and one of the readings that I did for her is actually in
a group setting where I had these rabbits coming through and it showed to me as pieces
of rabbit being cut up. I was a bit perturbed. Sandra: Sure. Charles: Maybe we had a dog who ate really
well, I don’t know. So, I’m trying to figure that out and finally, I realize that she has
rabbits that she’s raised. I need to address that. I bring that forward and tell her that
I’m seeing them as food. She raised them for food and they were rabbits and ever since
I brought through her dog, she was worried the rabbits would come through because she
felt guilt. They said, please we understood our role here and that we’re prey animals.
We had a sense we wouldn’t last long. It’s a tough game. But, in the grand scheme of
things, the way we went was much more preferable to a predator ripping me apart, or to sickness,
the elements, and all these other things. At least it was quick and fairly humane. I’m
sitting there in shock, going wow. Wasn’t expecting to bring that through for someone.
That’s kind of odd. But, it’s comforting too. Sandra: It also makes me think of the animals
that we eat, our ground beef and chickens. Charles: The millions? Sandra: Do they know what they’re coming into? Charles: Yes, I was a staunch vegetarian coming
into this. Sandra: I could imagine. Charles: I’ll tick off a few people, but I’m
not a vegetarian. All life feeds off of other life, for the most part. It’s the way it’s
set up down here. I subscribe to the native-American way of doing things, where everything has
spirit. I’m including rocks, creeks and everything else. We could do a whole other show on that.
But, they would honor the spirit of the animal who provided subsistence for them and wouldn’t
waste it or treat it with disrespect. The relationship they had with their prey is much
different than today. It’s so sanitized that you tell a kid that McNuggets come from chicken,
they’re like are you kidding me? They don’t put two and two together, or most of them
don’t. One of the things I want to do is to teach others what I do, because it’s not that
difficult once you start to understand the concepts that are employed and how to make
that contact. It’s understand the binary nature of the communication. You need to understand
that our mind is a viewing area for more than just our own thoughts. When you have that
song coming through in your mind that you haven’t heard for awhile and all of a sudden,
you’re hearing Sitting on the dock of the bay… wait a minute, my grandpa used to sing
that song. Grandpa? If you get a pulse of energy coming through and tears welling up
and you go, wow. I’m getting emotional and I can’t put my finger on it. Grandpa? You
get this energy that washes over you. Oh yeah, you’re connecting with grandpa. He’s coming
back for you. Sandra: Charles, this is amazing. I’m looking
at the clock and it’s time to bring the episode to an end. Charles: Awe. Sandra: Unfortunately. Just a personal question,
well it’s not that personal, but my aunt and I have suffered a lot of loss, both in family
and with our pets. Obviously, we’re across the country from you can we find a way to
call in together and book an appointment with you and do that kind of thing? Charles: Certainly, that wouldn’t be a problem.
I work world-wide. I have clients in every corner of the globe, basically everyday. One
thing we didn’t talk about which is language barriers. There is no barrier. I’ve channeled
in foreign languages Hebrew, Cantonese, you name a language and I’ve spoken it. I don’t
know what I’m saying but I pair it with spirit. All sorts of things are possible. Doing it
regardless of where you are in the world isn’t a problem. We can do a Skype conference, phone,
we can do it in a chat room. Makes no difference to me. Sandra: It’s interesting because although
I’ve done all the research I have on life-after-death and talked to people, hearing these stories,
I’m still human and I have my doubts and down-days, or sad days. You just boosted my spirits so
much. Charles: Thank you. Sandra: It’s just like a nice little reminder
that we don’t die. This is real. Charles: No, absolutely. You don’t want it
to be. Sandra: Exactly. But, it really does impact
our lives and even just the visceral experience you’re talking about, yeah. It really uses
our senses. Charles: The first thing that happened to
me when it took place, when I had that first experience with the ghost, was that it wasn’t
so much fear but this wash of relief because my understanding, of course, which a lot of
people share is that you snuff out and that’s it. Now, I was scared. I was like, gee man.
That means you’re doing all this work and you can’t save it. It’s like playing a video-game
with no save mode. Sandra: Right.>>LAUGHTER Charles: Didn’t like. Then, I come to find
out that there’s a record made of everything and anything you ever do. Some people call
it the record and that’s accessible in spirit. There’s a great sense of unity, family and
togetherness and when you return to spirit, it’s not a sterile environment. Those who
are your ancestors come out of the woodwork and help you with the process of getting your
feet back under you and reclaiming the old/new you. We’re not humans having spiritual experiences,
we’re spirits having a human experience here. But, I digress and I understand our time is
up. Sandra: Any closing thoughts? It’s killing
me because I don’t want to hang up, but we’re going to. We’ll do something else again. Charles: I think the number one thing is for
people to realize that if you dismiss your loved one’s attempts to connect with you as
being chance or coincidence, so on and so forth imagine if you will, you’re walking
down the street and the phone rings. It’s a public pay phone. You pick it up and it’s
grandma. You’re like, hm, that’s weird. How’d grandma know I’m here? That’s not grandma,
it’s an impostor. They’re just messing around and you hang it up. It’s just a coincidence,
someone else with the same name. Grandma is like, but that was me.>>LAUGHTER After awhile, they stop trying. Because, if
they’re not getting through then why would they continue to waste your effort? If we
can acknowledge a) they exist, b) contact is real, c) they can help us. The more benefit
of that understanding in the relationship we have in our lives. Sandra: They can be very subtle messages coming
through. Charles: They can be subtle and very overt.
It’ll be simple as turn left, don’t turn right. I do it and then it’s saved my life. If I
turned right I would’ve gotten t-boned. Things like that. Those things really do happen,
so they must not be dismissed lightly. Sandra: Charles, thanks so much. Charles: You’re welcome. Anyone can get a
hold of me at charlespeden.com. That’s p-e-d-e-n.Or, they can call 925 360 9853 for scheduling.
Of course, send in an e-mail through the website and there you have it. Sandra: For our listeners too, besides thanks
for being here I hope you had as much fun as I did and got as much goosebumps as I did
as well. If you go to the website wedontdieradio.com I have a picture of Charles Peden as well
as his phone number, the links and stuff like that. So, you can get back in touch with him.
Charles, any assistance I can be in the future, however you wish to spread your message and
teach people and train people Charles: I have some ideas and big stuff once
we go off-air I’d like to talk to you for a split-second. Sandra: You have my support in whatever you
want to do. For our listeners, I want to thank you again to take the time to be here. My
name is Sandra Champlain and I’ve been your host here on We Don’t Die Radio. I believe
that life is an education for the soul, and your life here on Earth is important. I thank
you for being here come drop by wedontdieradio.com, join the insider’s club and you’ll get a free
reading of my book. Thanks again to Charles Peden, and we’ll see you soon.>>MUSIC PLAYING
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